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	littlepapermask 2005-07-19 12:23 pm UTC (link)
	Crowley (Reply to this) (Thread)

	celtic_ankh 2005-07-19 12:26 pm UTC (link)
	Expound for me, darling. What specifically do you seem to bring up the most, and why? (Reply to this) (Parent)

silverose
2005-07-19 02:19 pm UTC (link)

Lately, no surprise to anyone, its been Jhenah Telyndru, the founder of the Sisterhood of Avalon - and that mostly because I am called upon to explain it a fair amount.

Unfortunately, Silver RavenWolf comes up a bit too but often in the context of: if you read between the lines you might get [fill in the blank] which is actually kind of interesting or Silver says [fill in the blank] and that is wrong/misleading/incomplete and what's really going on is [blank]... I think being aware of what she says can be useful as long as she isn't taken to be an Authority on all things Wiccan. (I've been frustrated with her since I was first interested in Wicca! Ever seen her Teen Witch? It spends a lot of pages talking about nothing! It's so parent friendly its almost worthless as an occult book!)

Also, Franz Bardon has come up a lot - but thats really because I'm in a discussion group with the SOA dealing with western occult and we're reading his "Initiation Into Hermetics" right now...

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ah, thank you.

celtic_ankh
2005-07-19 02:26 pm UTC (link)

I didn't even have to pester you for details! Have a cookie.

I think being aware of what she says can be useful as long as she isn't taken to be an Authority on all things Wiccan.

Oh, I agree completely. I own four of $RW's books, after all. *laughs* That's how I know so much of it is junk. ^^

Ever seen her Teen Witch?

It's funny that it's so parent-friendly on the one hand and then on the other encourages children to decieve their parents. It's fucking ridiculous. Seen her Teen Witch KIT? Gag me.

Also, Franz Bardon has come up a lot

Now THAT'S one I wasn't expecting to have come up! I'm sitting here all impressed-like, now. How is Initiation Into Hermetics? I've not read it. (Nor seen a copy, now that I think of it...)

- N

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	Re: ah, thank you. silverose 2005-07-19 02:32 pm UTC (link)
	Its actually really facinating - though hard to get through. I'd never seen a copy either, but ordered it from amazon for the SOA's Western Way list. I haven't gotten too far into it yet - so far it seems to take a lot of what I already believed and expand it/flesh it out. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	celtic_ankh 2005-07-19 03:33 pm UTC (link)
	Interesting. I may have to hunt down a copy! (Reply to this) (Parent)

deliriousenigma
2005-07-19 02:57 pm UTC (link)

Most recently, having met new people who have asked me to introduce them into the community here, conversations have gone into the "so who have you read?" area. We've talked about Gardner, Crowley (Vivienne and Aleister), Buckland and especially his Big Blue Book, RavenWolf (who, as my friend Tamryn stands by, out of all her fluff-filled work, To Ride a Silver Broomstick is one of the few out there that states 'this is my way of doing things, it may not work for you, don't assume that it will, don't take me for gospel', I still have yet to read it though..) Interesting twist to the conversation with regards to Aleister Crowley, the person I most recently met said that he used to be a member of the OTO (Ordo Templi Orientis) in Toronto, which is interesting because I didn't think the group was still functioning.

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celtic_ankh
2005-07-19 03:35 pm UTC (link)

We've heard my rant on $RW before. ^^ Good for some magic, bad for any and all religion. (Especially since she claims to be Wiccan, over and over and over... and that IS in To Ride.)

which is interesting because I didn't think the group was still functioning.

Guh, no doubt. Were you able to verify that it was indeed still alive and kicking? Or was he, you know, lying?

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	deliriousenigma 2005-07-19 05:38 pm UTC (link)
	I considered that, then he ran off a few names that have escaped my mind since they're no one I know. He says that they've been in the Toronto scene for a while so I'm guessing that they're known to the "elders" around here. I'll see i f I could ask him again. He described a number of practices and rituals that seem pretty accurate. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	avarice 2005-07-20 12:44 am UTC (link)
	It's probably Buckland, though I don't mention him much. Mostly because I don't like him. --taliszanna (Reply to this) (Thread)

	fuckyou04 2005-07-20 01:52 am UTC (link)
	hmm I would have to say Crowley, I find him highly fascinating. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	celtic_ankh 2005-07-20 07:39 am UTC (link)
	So, you would reference him like, "well, Crowley had such-and-auch to say on the subject..." Or more like, "holy crispy crap, check out what this ugly guy did! NEAT huh?" (Reply to this) (Parent)

	celtic_ankh 2005-07-20 07:37 am UTC (link)
	laughs Hey, not liking a person is a valid reason for bringing them up in conversation. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	avarice 2005-07-20 03:33 pm UTC (link)
	(;> chuckles I suppose you are right... (Reply to this) (Parent)

dancing with myself.

celtic_ankh
2005-07-20 07:44 am UTC (link)

Because it's only fair to answer your own questions.

I find myself most often referring to Isaac Bonewits in discussions relating to magic. Grant Morrison comes up fairly often because I hang out with comic book geeks.

In casual conversation, Crowley comes up a lot because he's very easy to make fun of. Dion Fortune too, for the same reason. $RW and DJ Conway get brought up a lot as Bad Example. King Keven gets mentioned for comedic reasons too.

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well, is god a celebrity?
(Anonymous)
2005-07-25 03:12 pm UTC (link)

OH, MY GOD.

somehow, GOD, that revenant, lurching historical freak seems to continue interrupting my conversations with Linda Goodman to interject her opinion. But it's WELCOME becase somehow GOD is really more infomred than either myself or Linda's ghost whom i acess when running charts and basically playing with myself.

is that rape, incidentally that i think about Linda Goodman, admittedly DEAD, when i take myself to "parties"?

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